I'm continually surprised (and disappointed) that the Remain lobby perpetuates the notion that the UK outside the EU would only be able to negotiate trading arrangements with the EU that are equivalent to those 'enjoyed' by Norway and Switzerland. There is no logic to this. If an independent nation State, with 60m+ consumers, the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world, and a key member of NATO and the UN, knocked on the Commision's door and said 'let's trade', are we really expected to believe that the response would be 'only if you agree to what the Swiss have agreed'? I don't think so. There would be some tough negotiating and I doubt that the road to an agreement would be smooth, but let's be realistic. In or out, the EU needs the UK as much as if not more than we need it. This is not about economics; it's about self determination and sovereignty. Time to lay the myths to rest and concentrate on the real debate,